i was just researching some things and saw an article scan from 4-15-88 watchtower.
it talks of an unrepentant "wrongdoes", like a son who was a drunkard and glutton, and if he was unrepentant when brought before the judges, his parents would have a part in executing him.
my mom had said to me last time she was here..."it's a good thing we are not in bible times, you would be stoned!
It's funny how that evil line of reasoning really stands out to them when most can't even find a scripture if they had to.
It is evil. Its like an abuser telling his victim that they should be thankful that he is only going to break her finger and not her arm.
I like you, winced when she said it....It is evil.
i was just researching some things and saw an article scan from 4-15-88 watchtower.
it talks of an unrepentant "wrongdoes", like a son who was a drunkard and glutton, and if he was unrepentant when brought before the judges, his parents would have a part in executing him.
my mom had said to me last time she was here..."it's a good thing we are not in bible times, you would be stoned!
thats sad momma of meg....the WTS using the anology of stoning.....my MIL tried to use that reasoning on me recently when trying to justify her position of arbitrarily shunning her daughter after 27 years. I told her that analogy is ridiculous.
Soooooooooooo much if not all of what the WTS writes down in their magazines is for the JW's themselves, with the sole intent of controlling their thinking. This is a perfectly illustrated case. Its ludicrous. Just like shunning. Anyone not brought up a JW would look at them and say "What are you nuts?"....Or the tract that noone cares about.
It doesn't help the hurt you feel, but if your mom and my MIL used the same reasoning, it just means that the WTS has them brainwashed and that there is a very deliberate method to their madness.
I'll tell you what though, it is there using analogy of stoning and cruel use of shunning that thoroughly convinces me that if they could, the WTS would rule no differently than the Taliban. New Order = WTS police state. No thanks.
i got a phone call from a person that i gave my phone # to.
and this person said that gays are not welcome here and this is not what this board was really about.
i told them that this is only one part of the crap that the wts did to people and that we are people too.
Wozadummy: I don't see anyone giving sympathy to Hambeak "because he's gay." I do see sympathy for the way he was purportedly treated. Big difference
Astute comment! My beef is that I don't like it when men act like wussies! Calling up the dude and going all off on him is being a wussie!
This is a forum. If wussie boy had any real kahoneys he would have posted a thread giving his views, not call up the dude and do the Pat Robertson dance.
i emailed the publisher this morning and did not expect to hear from him at least until monday.
but i have my response already.. the book can be found at the publisher's website .
http://www.baytreepublish.com/take-back-life-fr.html.
Psychiatry will try to talk you out of all spirituality because they are strictly behaviorist; and psychology will try to talk you right in to the Occult and New Age unitarian/universalist concepts
Chaiyah, I don't want to hijack this thread as LL's book recommendation will no doubt benefit people, and since your post contains no reference to anything LL posted, it seems oddly out of place. Since you are an author, I would guess that you would be sensitive to others commenting about what they think that your book might contain before actually reading it. Would you do me a favor and begin a seperate thread elaborating on this concept highlighted above? It so completely goes against my experience being raised as a Unitarian Universalist, going to college and studying Psychology, and my personal experience of talk therapy with a trained professional.
LL please forgive my intrusion.
i got a phone call from a person that i gave my phone # to.
and this person said that gays are not welcome here and this is not what this board was really about.
i told them that this is only one part of the crap that the wts did to people and that we are people too.
When did Pat Robertson join the board?
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comments you will not hear at the 11-26-06 wt study (october 15, 2006, pages 18-23)(honorable weddings).
review comments will be in red.
quotes from other sources will be in quotes boxes.
No one got out of hand, no one got too drunk and all those moochers that couldn't stand me had a great time.
Except for my "wordly friends and family" who danced and partied like it was 1979
Restrangled you forgot to mention how a group of uninvited JW's crashed the party, drank the booze and acted like it was no big deal. That should be added to the list of rules. No "wordly" people would ever do that.
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latitudinarian, a. liberal in one's views; permitting free thought, especially in religious matters; very tolerant of the differing opinions of others; as, "latitudinarian" opinions or doctrines.
[emphasis added].
dear friends of liberal persuasion,.
I can't speak to the JW part, but overall in life as you get older if you are openminded, you begin to make peace with yourself.
Thoughts and reality are not something to fear
Someone famous on their deathbed said "I have no answers....only questions".
That doesn't scare me. I don't think we are meant to have all the answers.
I don't think to lead a productive life we need to have all the answers.
i hope you all had a great thanksgiving..... my husband was so inspired he went up to the attic and dragged down our tree the same day (the 23)... i have been decorating for 2 days serenaded by vince geraldi's charlie brown christmas music.
for some reason it feels extra special this year.
perhaps because after waffling for years with the witnesses i was finally able to let go this summer after finding this site.. so when are you putting up your christmas tree?.
The first time we played backup to a choir, we almost forgot to play when they started singing Silent Night. It was soooo beautiful that we just wanted to stop and listen!
Cellist, for two years our oldest son sang in a choir (they even traveled to Japan)...what an experience....its hard to describe the beauty of the voices. Music adds so much to the holidays and to life, doesn't it?
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